Rachel Hollis appeared on a recent Women of Impact episode hosted by Lisa Bilyeu. I wondered what we would hear from Rachel Hollis now that her upcoming Rach Talk Live tour isn’t selling as many tickets as her previous events.
Rachel says she is resillient because of her “willingness” to look at her past. This is surprising because so far she has, in my opinion, not acknowledged Toiletgate, her viral TikTok. (I believe this to be the case because on the Skinny Confidential podcast, she talked about cancel culture more than apologizing.) She says she could teach about resilience because she has been through “hard things,” including a really difficult childhood.
She looks at if she wants to cry as she speaks during podcast, at least that’s my perception.
Rachel says she always thinks, “It’s been way worse,” and “That history is what gives me courage in this moment.”
She says people want “so badly” to remind us of what we once were and our past mistakes.
“It makes us believe we’re supposed to be perfect.” And she refuses to buy into that.
She says it’s painful when you make mistakes and you “fall down.” I felt some empathy for her in this moment.
“I have said … I’ve said, ‘I’m gonna get this wrong, because I’m a human, and I’m trying my best, and when I get it wrong, you’re going to see me acknowledge it, you’re gonna see me stand back up, you’re going to see me learn and grow and do better. And for the rest of my life, that’s what’s gonna happen. But that only happens if we really believe that all humans should have the chance to mess up and go again. Because if we believe that for everybody, we’ll give that to ourselves.”
I disagree that Rachel has done this based on her comments about being canceled.
She says she doesn’t have the option of not working anymore. I found this surprising because she seemingly made millions from her multiple books, conferences and other speeches. She talks about her divorce and not having the option to crawl into bed under the covers. She has to be strong for her kids.
Rachel then talks about evolution.
“My greatest core value is evolution,” Rachel says. She wants to be a better person.
While this sounds good in theory, it seems sort of sad to be to always feel like you need to be better. Why not love and accept yourself as you are while working on anything you think is not helping you now? I don’t want to be working on myself forever. I think this is what I’ve realized in my years of reading self-development books.
She wants to get the end of her life and say she is the best version of herself. And that’s going to be painful. “All of it is going to come at some cost.” But the reward is “exponential growth.”
Lisa asks about excuses.
Rachel says, “I really do believe that every single one of us is doing the best that we can with the tools, the resources, the access we have in this moment.”
At about one hour and 24 minutes in, Rachel talks about having severe mood swings and brain fog. According to Rachel, this happen about a year and a half ago. It sounds like she is blaming her behavior during the Toiletgate era on her hormone imbalance, which I hope is not the case.
Overall, I came away from the interview feeling like it dragged on for much longer than necessary.
Has Rachel Hollis done any reflection? I believe she has, but maybe not enough.